Storm XT is bone stock an shot the hell out of.
still had the factory lube which is a liquid or loose lube yet i can see the gun has been shot possibly thousands of times judging by the seal and polish marks inside.
yet that runny lube gave reasonable protection.
interesting to me that nearly every airgun maker uses runny lube that looks like it lubed somthin else first?
anyway stock she tossed a Crow Mag at 830 with a sweet twang.
i honed the cylinder and burnished everything with the moly powder then lubed with Eddie's Juice.
stock seal, stock everthing.
the first ten over were high 897 fps low 871 fps with just a little burn not as much as i had hoped for.
50 rounds later she's calm and puttin em over at 872- 865 fps
she feels good she sounds good.

i'll open er up when i get 500 thru er.

Those still aren't bad numbers Craig. With a guide, pre-load and one of your port jobs, she could hit the 1000 mark.

Those still aren't bad numbers Craig. With a guide, pre-load and one of your port jobs, she could hit the 1000 mark.


that would be hittin the big time for an 89 dollar A/G.

i'm thinkin of runnin a few rounds thru er then taken er down cleanin er then lubin er with the molypaste and tar an see what she does like that.
just to see.

You may try to make the seal a bit thinner on the edges for just a slip fit rather than a drag fit. I noticed with my TF89, the stock seal would produce about 815fps (14.3g .22) and the seal was looser than I'm comfortable with. After I installed the Apex, which gave it a nice drag fit, the velocity dropped substantially, around 750fps. It has a much nicer firing cycle now. It could be due to many other variables though. I gave it a snug fitting delrin guide, spring tar, and a seal. It could also have been letting some lube past the seal and slightly dieseling too.

It could also have been letting some lube past the seal and slightly dieseling too.

that's what i'm looking for.

In doing my first tune on the Storm, I felt like... (you know, that feeling you get, that never leaves you, when you think you might have not done something 100%, it could be better, etc..) Well I got that feeling when I was putting then piston/new seal back into the tube. The tune guides say to put some lube on a rag and stick down in the tube, rod it to distribute, then a thin film on the seal to get it into the tube (with piston). Well, I felt like I may have gotten little or none in the tube using this method, (I was overly cautious, dead tired, seeing double), so as a result, I was left with the feeling that I needed to do something!

Using the Eddies juice recipe as a guide, I mixed 1 part moly paste with 2 parts Marvel Mystery Oil (I have no Slick 50 handy-- spent all my Wal-Mart money on bulk .22 cartridges). But I was thinking that the Moly really has the properties that slick 50 has, the bonding and all, so the MMO just cuts it to an easier to apply medium (plus grandpa swears by it).

I applied a few drops down the the hole, let it sit, moved the gun around, worked the cocking/piston to distribute it some, then shot a few rounds. I had no dieseling at all, and although I don't have a chrony, I may be able to get some sleep tonight.

Thoughts on this? I plan to tear her back down in a few weeks, maybe try the piston button trick. Is there anything I should look for on the seal to indicate negative reaction to the juice?

I've saw comp. tubes with a big gnarly gash in the side that were blamed on Eddie's juice!:rockon:Not tryin to tell ya what to do or nothing,but if you'd have aw a couple of those pics I don't think I'd have wanted my face anywhere close!Just my .02???

My guess is that some one held the go button in too long on the juice dispenser! I put 2 maybe 3 drops in, without any dieseling, so I think it's OK, not going to add any more for at least 500-1000 rounds...

Your avatar has me hypnotized!!!!

the reason Slick 50 is used is because of the Teflon in it, which leaves a nice slick coating in the tube.
Super lube is another good one to use.
a better way is to install the lube behind the seal by way of the cocking slot this would offer better protection then installing the lube in front of the seal.

I've saw comp. tubes with a big gnarly gash in the side that were blamed on Eddie's juice!:rockon:Not tryin to tell ya what to do or nothing,but if you'd have aw a couple of those pics I don't think I'd have wanted my face anywhere close!Just my .02???

i hear that, i have shot a 9.20 grain pellet at 1200 fps and the old storm was pissed.
she feels comfortable up to 1100 but the results are hard to duplicate shot for shot.

if you thoroughly read all of Eddie's info on this subject it does start to make sense, to me anyway.

the reason Slick 50 is used is because of the Teflon in it, which leaves a nice slick coating in the tube.
Super lube is another good one to use.
a better way is to install the lube behind the seal by way of the cocking slot this would offer better protection then installing the lube in front of the seal.

Doesn't the moly bond with the tube, too? Is it just twice as good to have both in contact?

the moly does bond with metal but i don't think it is as slick as Teflon.

Does super lube have Teflon? any chains carry it? (I looked at Wally World)

i had to order my Super Lube online as i could not find it around here, 9.95 shipped for a big tube.
super lube has PTFE additive.
when installing Super Lube you will notice that you can wipe all of the S.L. off and you will be left with a slick coating.

I use SuperLube in my tunes in the compression area or essentially everywhere the seal contacts metal and a very thin coat around the seal. It's easy to apply and easy to remove the excess leaving a nice, very thin film. I also have a small amount of a 50/50 mix with moly which I use all over a gun as it stays put, doesn't run, or make a mess. I get mine from local auto parts stores.

Ray

You guys would be DOA at gta for even suggesting an alternative to JM's lubes.

Now y'all pretend to look ashamed and I'll pretend to believe you..:D

You guys would be DOA at gta for even suggesting an alternative to JM's lubes.

Now y'all pretend to look ashamed and I'll pretend to believe you..:D

I plead ignorance! :p